Posts by chicken little

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Elders? do the rest of us know what they know..?

by angel eyes in

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what things about elders do only elders know and the rest of us dont?

i never knew they had a hand book till i came on here.

unsure why they dont mention it because surely its not meant to be a secret?.

chicken little

My response does not have to do with pedophiles, but it is to show the limitations of elders and their inability to get to the truth of matters. I recently found an old friend on fbook, I was not sure if she was still a jw so I was cautious. Turns out she was disfellowshipped some years ago and was very happy to find me again. When I heard her story and the things she had gone through with her ex husband I was once again convinced that there is no holy spirit directing these men. When she told the elders at her jc that her husband was having an affair with her best friend, the wife of another elder, she was not believed. Her husband and the sister denied it. She was divorced from him and six months later the ex married her best friend. Neither of these were disfellowshipped.

This week I received a friend request from...my friends ex husband warning me that his ex was disfellowshipped and very apostate to the truth, did I know this? I wrote back to him saying how amazing it is what you do NOT get disfellowshipped for these days. I would say that shagging your wife's best friend and then lying about it would be high on the list to get you kicked out. I then told him I was out of this high control organization and free to choose my own friends and he would not be one of them.

Afterwards I thought again how ridiculous it is to think that elders are impartial and guided by holy spirit.

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Were you ever counseled for being too friendly at meetings?

by Wasanelder Once in

i had a brother approach me once to tell me i was too friendly.

i had the habit of greeting everyone i could in the time provided before the meeting.

it was done sincerely and with personal interest.

chicken little

I remember when the book study conductors were told not to use first names during the study, even though we were in our own home. My husband was the conductor and he never got the hang of calling me sister......I remember the reasoning was that it was inappropriate and to personal to use first names.

We had a brother who liked to hug, he was a very kind man and he was deeply hurt when told not to hug as it could be viewed wrongly. I still laugh when I remember the congregation I was sent to pioneer in when I was 18 years old. I was a country hick from up north, we all hugged and cheek kissed. The look of horror on the faces of the metropolitan bros and sisters was so funny. You would think I had shot them. They stretched out their limp hand and told me that was how it was done in their congregation. I guess I had some spunk in those days because I carried on doing it until they got used to me. One sister bless her said she would permit me to Peck her cheek...haha.

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Did You Start "Losing It" As A Witness?

by minimus in

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friends

were you emotionally or mentally unbalanced at any time while you were a jehovah's witness?.

chicken little

I lost the plot for about seven years....I was a zombie in that period. I took everything so seriously and found my self almost paranoid. I can still even to this day remember people I called on in the service going back 30 years. I would have guilt trips over not getting back to them and being blood guilty.

My family suffered during this time. Conventions were torture, I spent much of the time in the rest rooms or in the car outside. I couldn't sit through the meetings I was afraid I would shout out something outrageous, my husband would walk me around the block to calm me down. I was so stressed out and suicidal, I felt life was a mess and I was of no use to anyone. Medicine helped. Then listening to the voice inside telling me there had to be another way to live than this.

I know of many who are just like I was.

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Saturday Mornings

by zarco in

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friends

then: get up grumpy, shower, go to starbucks, leave magazine to start time, drive to kingdom hall, hope to be able to work with friends in service so we can do just a few doors and then calls and an early lunch.. .

now: get up when i wake up, make coffee, read the boards, read the wsj and sf chronicle, wait for wife to wake up, take dog on a walk and decide what fun things to do in the bay area this weekend.. i love my weekends now!.

zarco.

chicken little

Here comes the confession. While in I would feel ill on a Saturday, the thought of the service, then rush home quick lunch, out the door for the meeting, get home at 6ish shattered. Then be expected to be on service next day.. wife of elder so supposed to set example. Many times I would be so sick on a Saturday, yet still bug my husband to go, for appearances sake. I ALWAYS had a guilty conscience...never felt happy even when I was doing alot.

Now we love our weekends, brunch with friends, time with the family and around the home. We go away to our summerhouse quite often without feeling we are materialistic hedonists. Life is good!

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Learning the "Truth" Is not true is like...................

by foolsparadise in

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friends

after 33 years of being mind controlled at 5 meetings a week, field service meetings, special day assembly, curcuit assembly,district assembly, finding out "the truth" is just a big hoax is like getting punched in the stomach-uppercut in the jaw-being kicked in the balls from behind and then having the rug ripped out from under you and smashing your head on the ground.

what was it like for everyone else?.

chicken little

Years of depression while in the org. Feeling that life was to be fought through. Always a feeling that I was not listening to something inside of me. When I did listen to that voice, then the floodgates opened. I started to use my intelligence and there was no going back. Went to a meeting one evening after the floodgates had opened and could not get my legs to work, I sat rooted to the car seat holding on to the steering wheel for dear life. That did it....body caught up with the mind...no way back. Went home and never looked back since. Feel at times an utter fool for believing what I did. Have learnt to forgive myself, as the witnesses so rightly say...nobody is perfect!! Haha.

All the best to you.....enjoy your life!!

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Rehab has been very interesting, but ended nightmarishly....

by oompa in

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friends

hi guys...oompa here.

was i in rehab for alcohol addiction or jwd addiction!?!?

!......no computers or cellphones allowed so i have been awol awhile..... ya, i finally made my self sick enough on booze to realize i was really sick and tired of being sick and tired....so checked myself into rehab without any planning at all and while wife was out of town on a family retreat...it was a a very desperate moment in my life, and i was extremely physically and emotionally sick....i was so desperate i took zero time to reseach where to go, but called an old school friend who said rehab had saved his life and he made the calls and actually took me and helped me check in to the place he went to 5 years ago.

chicken little

Welcome back Oompa,

You took a very difficult step to go to the re-hab. That still stands as a great accomplishment in itself. Many of these help institutions are desperate for cash and that may push them to oversell themselves. Very hurtful and unkind to use these methods on people that are so vunerable. Write a formal complaint to there head office.

Keep up the hard work and your AA attendance, we exjws are very sensitive to the "religious" imput in the meetings, but I would be like you and re-define the words to suit the way my beliefs stand.

Well done old chap, keep working hard. Don't give up, life is good at its core....you can live your life without the booze and enjoy it even more.

Hugs

Chicken little

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The claws are out!

by wantstoleave in

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friends

i just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone on the board.

i haven't been here that long but from the time i've spent here, i feel very comfortable.

i've been on boards before (witness ones) where everyone is so opinionated, heartless and holier than thou....but this one is so different.

chicken little

Welcome to the board...enjoy!

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Cola at the District Convention

by lepermessiah in

jw
friends

remember some of the garbage served at the district conventions?.

i was at the dollar store today and noticed they started carrying "shasta" cola.. i started laughing because they used to serve that skunk water at the district conventions when i was a kid.. they always brought in the cheapest, nastiest soda they could buy.. one year we had something called vess cola - that was actually worse than the shasta!

then, they ran out on sunday and had to buy pepsi from the local distributor - we were all rejoicing!!.

chicken little

When I first visited Denmark, I nearly died to see they served light beer at lunch...2.5% alcohol and everyone loved it...I was shocked to my puritan bones. After I moved there I got quite used to it..haha...then they scrapped the whole eating and drinking thing in favour of huge home made cooler boxes. Of course more work for the mothers to prepare each day before the 5.30 am travel to the convention site. Woe betide the heathen that sneaked out to get fast food...they were addressed from the platform as disrespectful of the convention arrangements. (I have seen huge long queues at the sweetie van and hot dog van outside the grounds...good business for them). The best treat we had was at Twickenham, London back in the early eighties...black forest gateaux...yummy!

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paranoid and ready to officially leave!

by leftchica in

so i officially realized today that i am paranoid!!

everytime i hear a car door slam outside i peek out the window.

my blinds are closed and the telivision is on low.

chicken little

Welcome leftchica,

Hope you have enjoyed your responses to your thread. It is so important to no that you are by no means alone with your fears. We have all been there to a

lesser or greater degree. I was given this advice...when they knock or ring, say "Thank you for your concern, but I have no need at this time to discuss

anything with you. My husband and I are regularly taking our problems to Jehovah in prayer and we will find our way through whatever difficulties we have.

We do not need any further calls from you, but if we do need you we know where to find you. Please respect our decision".

They cannot argue with this....they have to leave it alone.

Do not live in fear, take the power away from them. Consistantly refuse to discuss your reasons with anyone, we stonewalled all conversations trying to get us to explain ourselves. Be kind, friendly when you meet anyone from the kh, just don't get into it.

All the best, enjoy your freedom of mind and heart.

Chicken little

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Learn From A Great Teacher (repost)

by garyneal in

sorry for repeating myself but it appears that i placed this topic in the wrong category.

since i cannot seem to edit it or change it's category, i figured i'd repost it here where it may be more appropriate.. the watchtower publishes a book for parents to read to their children called "learn from a great teacher.

" my wife has had copies of this book for years and has read them to my little girl in the past.

chicken little

The old pink book was harmless (more or less). The new book is very harmful. There are pictures in there that would really scare a child. The armageddon illustrations are awful. I made up my mind when that book came out that I would not read it to my little boy. I was mentally on my way out of the witnesses at that time. There is also a very spooky rag doll in a few of the illustrations...that freaked me out too.